Today starts with a sigh, a groan and a babbled explanation before the stark realisation of how much Maker's Mark whisky the Foo Fighters' frontman consumed the previous evening kicks in. In his own words, Grohl was "fucking loaded last night".
  But hangovers don't stay around for ever, and as the warm late August Los Angeles morning gives way to a clear, humid day, the previous night's excesses gradually begin to dissipate and the 30-year-old Capricorn flashes a shit-eating grin that serves to illustrate that things are back on track in the Foo Fighters camp, The grin turns to a chuckle, and suddenly the day doesn't look so bad after all.
"Fuck it, I still feel like shit," he shrugs, "But, y'know?".
There's a perfectly good reason why Dave Grohl
feels like he's just been turned inside out through his
arsehole. Hell, he couldn't do this every night: too
many days on the road - first with Virginian hardcore
band Scream in 1987, then Nirvana in 1990 and his
own band a half-decade later - have taught him
that much.
  No, the real reason that Grohl is feeling as rough
as a badger's arse is because he has just completed
work on the Foo Fighters' third album, 'There Is
Nothing Left To Lose'.
  It's a record that was written and recorded during
a time of great upheaval for the band. First, Grohl
packed up and fled from LA to his native Springfield,
Virginia to build his own studio and escape the fake
rock 'n' roll world that he'd already seen far too
much of thank-you-very-much. Then guitarist and
childhood friend Franz Stahl deserted the ranks after
just 18 months with the band, leaving Grohl without
a guitar player for the second time in the Foo
Fighters' career.
But now their best album yet has been completed
and ceremoniously unveiled at a playback night held
at the band's manager's house here in California to
an assembled crowd of industry types. Hence the
hangover. Hence the bleary eyes. Hence the
burgeoning sense of excitement once again. The Foo
Fighters are back and - hangover aside - rock's Mr
Nice is feeling happier than ever.
How has the recording been for you
this time around?
"It's been great. We wrote a lot of the
songs in the studio because, when it comes to
recording, we're very quick. We get the basis of a
song recorded in one day. I'm absolutely thrilled with
the end result. It's the first record where I've ever
felt like I don't want to go back and change a single
thing. There's 11 songs: 'Stacked Actors', 'Breakout',
'Learn To Fly', 'Gimme Stitches', 'Generator', 'Aurora',
'Head Wires', 'Next Year', 'Live In Skin' and a couple
whose titles I'm just settling on. We recorded it in my
house, so it was a very different process from the
one that I'm used to."
Why did you decide to work from home?
"Well about a year ago I was working with a
band called Verbena, who wanted me to produce
them. I was like, 'I really don't know how to produce
anything - but yeah, sure". I said that I'd do it if they
got Adam Casper, who has worked with
Soundgarden, to record it. He was also the last
person to record Nirvana when we got together to
do some demos. Verbena were given a budget to
make their first record that was just about enough to
build their own studio, so I said to Adam, 'I'm going
to build my own studio too!'.
  "After that, we shopped around and travelled to
different studios for five months until we found a
mixing board from Nashville, a tape machine from
New York and so on. We put it all in my house, which
is about a mile from the high school that I went to.
Once we had all the gear, we were up and running
and recorded every day from March until July of this
year - and here we are. The record is done, and the
way we recorded was so real and natural. We didn't
use any fucking computers, anything digital or any of
that auto-tuning shit; we just went fo! a natural
process and, altogether, it sounds absolutely fucking
massive. It's amazing."
Does the record see you returning to
your hardcore roots?
"We just wanted to prove to ourselves just as
much as anyone else that you don't need to work
with famous producers, you don't need to work with
computers, you don't need to come to Hollywood to
make an album. All you need are songs that deserve
to be heard, a couple of friends and a genuine
direction that you won't stray from. Moving back to
Virginia and making this record was a direct
response and result of me living in Hollywood for
about a year.
  "Basically, I fucking despise this city. I think
everything about it is just vile. It seemed like what I
call 'the Hollywood element' had started to
dominate a lot of popular music, and that greatly
upset me. I hate rock stars just as much as when I
was 13 years old and listening to the Bad Brains. I
fucking can't stand it. Nothing seems sacred here.
Music is something real and beautiful and it is
fucking sacred, but it's just being dragged through a
trench of shit right now. The whole thing here in
Hollywood about fame and beauty and the
glorification of the celebrity just made me want to
go fucking crazy and kill everyone."
Was there a particular incident in
Hollywood that drove you away?
"Well, every evening that you went out you would
be
surrounded by people trying to be something that
they weren't. Every time I turned on the TV and saw
a video or picked up a magazine and read an
interview or went to see a band, I would see another
jloating rock musician that thinks that they're omni-important or something more than a human being.
Nobody is super-human, and it broke my heart to see
people whose one desire was to be larger than life.
You can't be. You just can't.
  "When you get the lyric sheet you'll see that the
record has everything to do with these
fucking fake elements. There's one
song called 'Stacked Actors' and the
lyrics go: 'Oh mirror, mirror, I'm
coming unclear / I'm finally somewhere
in between / I'm impressed, what a
beautiful chest / You were meant to
make a beautiful scene'. And then the
chorus is: ' Stack the dead actors / Up to
the rafters / Line up all the bastards / All
we want is the truth'. I guess it's pretty clear what I'm trying to say."
On a different note, what
were the reasons for Franz Stahl
leaving the band?
"When we started rehearsing
we were in a tiny practice space, and
in those few weeks it just s eemed like
the three of us were moving in one
direction and Franz wasn't. It's a hard
thing to talk about because we've
known each other since we were
teenagers and it didn't work out. It
was entirely a musical decision,
whereas with Pat (Smear, the Foo
Fighters' first guitarist) it was just that
he didn't want to tour. I guess Pat was
getting older and didn't want to spend
the rest of his life on aeroplanes,
which I can completely understand.
With Franz it was a musical decision. I
was in tears. He was one of my oldest
friends and we wanted it to work so
badly, but it didn't. Instead, we just
recorded the album with the three of
us. I played all the guitar parts. If Franz
isn't already in another band, he will
be soon,"
Would you say that you
are difficult to work with?
"I don't think so. Nate (Mendel,
bass), Taylor (Hawkins, drums) and I
have a wonderful relationship. I
usually come up with a song and I
don't have to tell Nate anything; and
Taylor and I have respect for one
another because we're both
drummers. I let him pull me in one
direction because he's great at
arranging music. He always takes a
song from A to B because I think he's
spent so many years listening to
Queen! I usually just give suggestions.
"I think the problem with Franz is
that he couldn't find his place within
the three of us and... it just didn't
work out."
There's a rumour that Tracii Guns from '80s glam rockers LA Guns offered his six-string services. Is that true?
"Yeah! (laughs) He gave us his
phone number. Fuck him. I haven't
talked to him and I think I've lost his
number already. let's just leave it at
that."
Why have you chosen to
call the album 'There Is Nothing
Left To Lose'?
"Well, I was talking with a
friend about when you experience
these emotions after you've been
through a long, difficult period and
you finally give into this feeling that,
quite simply, there really is nothing
left to lose. It can seem both positive,
desperate and reckless. Everyone has
felt like that at one point or another -
when you're fed up and you've
decided to lose all of your reservations
and just say, 'Fuck it'. Actually, I like t
hat - maybe we'll just call the album
'Fuck It'.
  "At the time of recording, Foo
Fighters didn't even have a record
label. We'd left Capitol and hadn't
joined RCA, so we just did it all
ourselves. There was a point where we
thought, 'You know, we could just stop
this band right now, We're not
obligated to do anything or be
responsible to anyone'".
Was splitting up the Foo
Fighters ever a serious
consideration?
"No, but knowing that it was an
option and we still chose to continue
says a lot about us as a band. We could
just take our winnings and get day
jobs, but we chose to stay with each
other and make these songs. It made
us appreciate everything even more
and realise how great it is just to make
music for the sake of it and for no
other reason. We need to do it. This
new album has nothing to do with
anything outside of the studio, It's not
about a record company or a video or
an interview or celebrity or fame or
Hollywood or power or money. It was
just Virginia and the three of us.
  "That's why I'm so pleased when I
play the record, because our intentions
were absolutely genuine and it's a
wonderful thing to feel so proud of
honest expression. It's not like we
need to make any more money or
want to be any more famous; it's like
we really don't fucking care, We just
have to prove things to ourselves."
The new single is 'Learn
To Fly'. What's it about?
"lt's about the search for some
sort of inspiration, the search for signs
of life in things that will make you feel
alive. 'Learn To Fly' is actually one of
my least favourite songs on the
record. A song like 'Stacked Actors'
just fucking kills, man! I'm so glad that
it's the first song on the album. It
opens the record with a
sledgehammer. It's us saying 'fuck it'
again. Yeah, a blast of feedback and
then a tuned-down Sabbath-on-speed
type riff before blowing into this really
weird calypso type thing with vocals
that sound like Steve Miller. Then
there's 'Aurora', which is trippy and
beautiful and with a huge build-up at
the end. That's probably the greatest
song we've ever written because it
makes everything else just look like
shit - in a good way, of course."
So what do you do
outside of music?
"Nothing, man, If I'm not
writing and recording then I'm
listening to stuff. We're all huge
Queens Of The Stone Age fans. They're
the great white hope of American rock
- there's something about Josh
(Homme, QOTSA mainman). They make
music that's the perfect place between
getting your ass kicked and being
asleep. I've also been listening to the
last couple of Frank Black albums and
this compilation of a DC band called
The Obsessed. They're fucking
amazing and we've covered one of
their songs for a B-side."
When Nirvana ended, did you anticipate the kind of success that the Foo Fighters have achieved in a relatively short
space of time?
"No, it's an insane surprise. Of
all the demos and silly things that I'd
done, I never imagined that more than
10 of my friends would ever hear it.
The first album was basically a demo.
After everything, I just expected to
play clubs and universities and just
feel like life was going on and that I
still served a purpose on this planet.
But it became a little bigger.
  "We're not that popular, though
- we're at that level where we feel
comfortable with the size of the band.
I can't imagine that we'll ever get any
bigger. We're not a cartoon boy band,
we just like to make people get
fucking hot and sweaty and, well, we
just happen to have a nice relationship
with a couple of million people..."
Words: Ben Myers     Pics: Ross Halfin