Foo Fighters may have been on a break of late, but Dave Grohl hasn't been sitting on his arse. Oh No. The most connected man in rock has called on some buddies to make a movie about Sound City - the LA studio where Nirvana recorded Nevermind. Simon Young headed there to ask Dave about his new vocation, Nirvana, and when the Foos might return...
"You guys realise we've got a lot of songs to play,"
smiled Dave Grohl, casting a glance over the
sea of people in front of him as the Foos closed
last year's Reading Festival. "It's our last show
for a long time."
  What a buzzkill, eh? There we were, having a great
time, and then Dave hints at calling it a day on the
band's 18-year career. What the hell was the busiest,
most-connected man in rock going to do with his
newfound downtime?
  Well, it turns out that the busiest, most-connected
man in rock had several things up his plaid sleeve.
Phew. And, almost six months later, we're at
Studio 606 in Northridge, his recording complex
10 miles northwest of Hollywood's hustle and
sun-cracked pavements.
Deep in the bowels of 606 - decorated with massive
Black Flag posters, Nirvana and Foos memorabilia,
and framed Zeppelin prints - we find Dave sitting
back in a leather chair, nursing a huge coffee. He
beams his toothy grin and offers a firm handshake.
There's that Bonham tattoo. Cool. The Nicest Man
In Rock- it's true -is feeling the after-effects of a
big night out. Just 18 hours before, he hosted the Los
Angeles premiere of his directorial debut, Sound
City - a ios-rmnute film about the now defunct
Van Nuys studio that birthed Nirvana's 1991 album,
Nevermind - at Arclight cinema on Hollywood's
Sunset Boulevard. After the film, he hightailed up the
road to the 4,000-capacity Palladium for a three-hour
celebrity jam with some mates, who happen to play
in Slipknot, Fleetwood Mac, Cheap Trick ... that kind of
thing. Oh, and his Nirvana bandmate Krist Novoselic
was there, wearing his bass just as low as you've seen
in all the band's videos.
  The unlikely star of the film - a gigantic, custom-
built Neve 8028 analogue mixing console - sits
nearby, like an old, robotic uncle made of wires and
buttons, as we begin our chat with Dave, to find out
how two weeks in that studio changed his life, why
he's dipping his Vans-clad toes into film-making and
what the future holds ...
WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO MAKE
I DOCUMENTARY?
"The studio is part of my life. I
don't know if I'd be here if it wasn't
for that studio. It made Nevermind
sound the way it did. The idea
started when we were making the
last Foos album [2011'S Wasting
Light, produced by Butch Vig, who
also helmed Nirvana's Nevermind
in 1991] in my garage. Butch and I
started hunting around for some
equipment and someone said I
should call Sound City, because
they were selling everything off
in Studio B. I said if they ever
wanted to get rid of the [Neve
8028] board in the A room, to let
me know. They were like (adopts
pinched, angry face), 'I'd sell my
grandmother before I'd sell that
board: I was like, 'Okay, just sayin"
It was only a matter of time before
they closed and they asked me
if I was serious about buying the
[console]. It didn't cost as much as
you'd think."
2011 WAS ALSO THE 20TH
ANNIVERSARY OF NEVERMIND...
"It was perfect; it'd be a nice
sidebar to that story, where I'm
reunited with the board we made
the album on, that I consider to
be responsible for who I am as
a person. So I called my friend
Jim Rota, who's in [Californian
metallers] Fireball Ministry, and
said, 'Let's make a little short film
and put it on YouTube: I talked
to Tom Skeeter, the owner of the
studio, and he told me so many
crazy stories about people who'd
recorded there: Evel Knievel,
Vincent Price ... Charles Manson!
I thought this was more than a
YouTube clip. I could spend all day
talking about the board, but the
bands who've played through it?
It's nuts! It's a long list."
WHEN YOU SET OFF
FROM SEATTLE TO MAKE
NEVERMIND, WHAT WERE
YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF
SOUND CITY?
"We basically slept in a van
when we went on tour, so we
weren't used to top-of-the-
line shit! Sound City was
kinda run-down and was
a perfect match for us. We
rehearsed all the songs [for
Nevermind] in a fucking
barn! Kurt [Cobain] and I
lived in an apartment full
of turtle shit and cigarette
butts. But when we got
there, we were surprised, because we were coming
to Los Angeles, the music industry capital of the
world. I'd thought the place would've been a little
cleaner, but the cool contrast was that the platinum
records on the walls were legendary: Tom Petty And
The Heartbreakers [1979'S Damn The Torpedoes],
Fleetwood Mac [their 1975 self-titled album] and Dio
[1983'S Holy Diver] ... "
CAN YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST TRACK YOU RECORDED?
"In Bloom, I think. We immediately knew that the
big room sounded good. It was just a room with
linoleum tiles, but when you put your kick drum in
the middle of the room and hit it, it sounded good.
There was deep resonance to the room that you just
don't get [anywhere else]. Sound City was never
designed acoustically - it just sounded great. [So]
we put the drums in the middle of the room. Krist
set up his bass amp in a closet down the hall, Kurt's
amp was in a doorway, and we did a take or two
of In Bloom and listened back to it. It was the first
time I'd ever heard Nirvana sound like that. It didn't
sound like [1989 debut] Bleach, it didn't sound like
the [1990] Sliver single, or the Peel Sessions. We were
just like, 'Oh my God, that sounds huge!' With Butch
Vig at the board (points at the console), it blew us
away. After that take, we knew the album was going
to sound good."
SO WHAT WERE THOSE 16 DAYS LIKE, THEN?
"I hardly remember! We stayed at this crappy
apartment complex called
Oakwood. It was right off the
highway, next to the Hollywood
Hills and filled with child actors,
guys and high-priced escorts;
there was a hot tub where
people would meet - it wasn't a
pleasant place. We just wanted
to record. We started playing
each day at loam and Kurt sang
all of his scratch vocals as if
they were real takes. But if
you're going to do that for six
hours, you're going to blow
your voice out."
DID YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF
INKLING THAT SOMETHING BIG
MAY BE ABOUT TO HAPPEN?
"I was 22 and didn't have a credit
card or a bank account. I lived
hand-to-mouth and it was fun.
I just remember before that, I
knew what was going to happen
every day. Like I'd have to sell
something so I could eat, or
we'd get in our shitty van and
go play a gig. Or when this is all
done, I'm going to have to go
back to the furniture warehouse
and beg for my job back. I knew
those things were going to
happen. [But] when we started
making Nevermind, I suddenly
didn't know what was going to
happen next. Even though none
of us expected what happened
to happen, suddenly there was
this chance that maybe it could.
All of our friends were listening
to the songs and going, 'You
guys are going to be huge: It's
a sweet thing to say, but at the
time Michael Jackson was huge;
Whitney Houston was huge;
Michael Bolton was huge. Poison
were huge! There was no place
for us in that. To us, huge meant
Sonic Youth; they played to 1,000
[people] a night. It was exciting."
WERE YOU HAPPY WITH THE WAY NEVERMIND CAME OUT?
"Yeah. I really wanted it to be good, so at night I'd
listen to the rough mixes on cassette, but all I could
hear was my inconsistency. I couldn't see the bigger
picture. I was so focused on playing really well and
there were times when I wondered whether [the
drums] were good enough. But when I heard the
rough mix of Breed, I thought, 'Damn, this is fuckin'
good!' It was a good feeling. After we'd finished
recording, we had a vacation and then went on tour
with Dinosaur Jr .. That's when things started really
picking up."
IN THE FILM, YOU PLAY ALONG TO SMELLS LIKE TEEN
SPIRIT TO DEMONSTRATE THE STUDIO'S DRUM SOUND ...
"When we transferred the board from Sound City to
Studio 606, it was stressful as it hadn't moved for 40
years! It was like robbing a tomb or something. I'd
just bought the most important piece of recording
equipment in Los Angeles, and I was about to yank it
over to my place [in Northridge]. Sound City is now
called Fairfax Recordings; it has the same room and a
new board. Kevin Augunas, the guy who runs Fairfax,
said to me he was producing [DC-based reggae indie
trio] RDGLDGRN and asked if I'd play drums on a track
[I Love Lamp]. It was a perfect opportunity to set up
and play along to Teen Spirit for the movie."
HOW DID YOU FEEL AFTER PLAYING TEEN SPIRIT?
"I listened to it on headphones and played along. And
you know what. .. I got really choked up. I didn't want
to break down in tears in front of everyone, but I did. It
was a really strange day. It was really weird, like there
were ghosts in the room."
During the premiere of Sound City, it wasn't
apparent at first that Dave was playing along to
that song that made Nirvana's career explode.
But after a few beats, it dawned on the audience, and
there was an audible gasp as the new footage was
spliced with Samuel Bayer's classic high-school gym
promo video. "I thought it would be cool to show how
old I look now," laughs Dave.
  To be honest, the idea of a documentary about
a recording studio might sound a little dry and,
well, challenging. But it's more than tired producers
hunched over faders and enthusing about "warm
mics". Much more than that.
  "It's a personal journey:' smiles Dave. "It begins
with me entering a studio and ends with me playing
with my heroes."
  You'd think that with Dave's resources and status,
he'd be able to walk into any film studio, pitch
the idea and get the film made on the spot. But,
even though he's comfortable performing in
arenas and stadiums around the world, he's
never forgotten his punk roots. Why let a
soulless film studio make all the decisions
when you can do it yourself?
WERE YOU WORRIED THAT A HOLLYWOOD
STUDIO WOULD RUIN YOUR INTENTIONS?
"I sat down with Jim and my manager,
John Silva - who I've been with for 22
years - and said, 'We have to take
this seriously and not have any
Hollywood studios involved
with this. It has to be US; we
all understand Sound City.
We've all been there, we all
understand the board and the
human element of music. The
only people who can work on
this movie are the ones who
can understand that."
WAS THE FILM EASY TO MAKE?
"Nobody ever taught me to play the drums. I just kinda figured it out.
Nobody taught me how to play the guitar. I figured that out, too. When I did the
first Foo Fighters record, I did it in six days and played
all the instruments; I didn't know what I was doing.
No-one told me what to do. Had there been a producer
involved, I guarantee you it would have been different.
I like that record because it's so naive and it is what it
is. It's an accurate representation of my vision or my
personality. There was nothing in the way. It's not the
greatest record in the world, but to me, it's like, cool.
Same thing goes for the movie. I don't know how to
make movies, but I could tell you the story of Sound
City like that (snaps fingers). So why would I need
anyone's help? We rounded up the coolest people we
knew and it was fucking great."
HOW DID YOU ASSEMBLE THE SUPERSTAR CAST?
"I got a list of the big albums that were made there
and got everyone's email addresses: Rick Springfield,
Rick Rubin, Rick Nielsen, Corey Taylor ... and started
writing emails. 'Hi, my name's Dave. We have
something in common: Sound City. I'm going to
make a movie about it. Can I interview you?' I'd never
interviewed anyone before, but everyone agreed and,
all of a sudden, I had 40 people say yes. That's when
I realised that not only is this a movie, but it's a big
movie, and we should treat it as such."
WHAT DID YOU LEARN DURING THE MAKING OF THE FILM?
"My mother [Virginia] probably gave me the
most important piece of advice during the
movie-making process. I told her I was
making a movie about this board that I
bought and I was interviewing all these
people, who are going to come back
and make a record. She told me that I
shouldn't start the movie by saying I
bought the board: 'You tell the history of
the studio, then you rescue the board and
invite everyone back to make an album.'
She's a writer. Thanks mom!"
YOU'VE DESCRIBED THIS FILM AS
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
YOU'VE EVER DONE. WHY DO
YOU SAY THAT?
"When you're in a band
and make albums, you're
sort of doing it for
yourselves. Of course,
you want your audience
to appreciate what you
do, but ultimately, it's
a selfish act. You want
people to think your
band is amazing. You
want people to think
your album is great. With
the Sound City movie, I wasn't making it so people
would think I was a great director; the intention of
that movie was to inspire people, to love the human
element of music, or go out and start a band. You'll see
musicians in a room jamming and coming up with a
song. That's how songs are written."
DO YOU THINK DIGITAL RECORDINGS AND MODERN
CUT-AND-PASTE TECHNIQUES CAN REALLY STRIP THE
MAGIC OUT OF A BAND'S PERFORMANCE?
"As we get further down the line with technology, it's
easy to lose the simple foundation of music - it's a kid
buying an old guitar, learning how to play it, writing a
song and then becoming [part of] the biggest band in
the world. These studios that have changed the world
are, one by one, closing their doors because they're
considered obsolete. That's the double-edged sword
with technology - the availability of digital recording
equipment makes it so that anyone can make an
album. You can do it in your bedroom, or basement,
and with the click of a button you can transport it
all around the world. When I was a kid, I would have
fuckin' killed to have that opportunity! The downside
is that these [studios] are just disappearing. So when I
say this [film] is the most important thing, it's because
the movie is not really for me; I'd like to think that
some of the bands I've been in have inspired people to
play music, but that wasn't really the intention. With
the film, that was the intention. I want people to get
in a room with their friends and jam."
SOUND CITY ENDS - SPOILER ALERT - WITH
COLLABORATIONS BETWEEN THE FOOS, KRIST
NOVOSELIC, LEE VING, SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY, STEVIE
NICKS, TRENT REZNOR, JOSH HOMME ... GETTING
EVERYONE TOGETHER TO RECORD MUST HAVE BEEN
A HEADACHE.
"I'm still a nerdy rock fan and these were huge
experiences to me. But logistically, the project was
nuts! That's when I needed help! The Stevie Nicks
song [You Can't Fix This] was something I wrote for
[Foo Fighters' 2005 album] In Your Honor, but we
didn't use it because the music sounded too much
like Fleetwood Mac! The song was just sitting there,
so I sent it to her and asked what she thought. She
said, 'I love it!'"
WAS IT TERRIFYING WORKING WITH ALL YOUR HEROES?
"Fuck yeah! It was even terrifying working with
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club! I have a lot of respect
for these people. So, when I had to play the drums
in front of Sir Paul McCartney or sing harmonies
in front of Josh [Homme], it was all terrifying!
You want to impress the people you respect. You
don't want to let them down. It just happens
that these legendary people are friends of mine!
[Recording Sound City - Real To Reel, the soundtrack]
was amazing."
SPEAKING OF JOSH HOMME. WE LEARNED YOU HAD
REJOINED QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE IN THE AUTUMN.
IS THE ALBUM DONE?
"With Queens, I think Josh is mixing the record and
doing the vocals now. It's really cool. It's unlike any
other Queens record and really sounds like a band in
a room. That's what it sounded like when I heard it,
but, if you leave something with Josh, you don't know
what you're going to get when it goes out the door.
People will like it. It rocks!"
WILL THERE BE ANOTHER FOO FIGHTERS ALBUM OR WERE
YOUR READING FESTIVAL COMMENTS AS OMINOUS AS
THEY SOUNDED?
"(Laughs) We're writing another Foo Fighters record.
We always do best after a nice rest. But it's going to
happen. We have to do it. We can't not do it."
DOES TAKING PART IN THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS
RECHARGE THE FOOS' BATTERIES. THEN?
"Yeah, you could imagine. That's one of the great
things about collaborating. When you play with
other people, everyone plays differently. So you
learn from people and you change as a player. You
adapt to whoever you're playing with. It broadens
your musical scope and makes you a better player.
When playing with other bands or other people, it
makes you appreciate what you have in your band.
Foo Fighters are a good fucking band. If I say, 'Hey
guys,let's learn 40 songs in 10 days [for the Sound
City Players shows]: they'll do it. They'll really do
it. They're fucking good and, when you jam with
other people, you realise that you're lucky to be
in the Foo Fighters. I don't want to live in a world
without my band."
And with that, our time with The Nicest Man In
Rock has drawn to a close. Getting up from the
leather sofa - above which hangs a tongue-in-cheek
company director portrait of the studio's
owner, resplendent in a red velvet smoking jacket
- he gives Kerrang! a quick tour around the recording
room and a moment to gawp at the huge recording
console that he feels he owes, in somepart, his
incredible rockstar life.
  But the most connected man in rock, however, also
has stuff to be getting on with, including planning
for future Sound City shows. With that in mind, he
bids us a smiley goodbye, whips on his mirrored
aviators and baseball cap, and jumps into a vehicle
least befitting of a man who's sold millions of records
and sold out arenas and stadiums around the world -
a bright red vintage Ford Falcon Family Wagon - and
pulls away. He literally can't, and won't, stop.
Words: Simon Young     Pics: Lisa Johnson